It’s time to go back to 1972 or so and start the Women’s Liberation movement up all over again. We need it.
A client, who was sexually harassed at her old firm, tells me a new fear haunts her – that her “reputation” will be transported via gossip to wherever she goes next. I asked what that “reputation” would be – I mean, how do you get a reputation for being harassed by some clown at a law firm?
“Well, they might think I’m difficult, or unstable, or a trouble-maker,” she explained.
That makes me want to scream – particularly because she might be right: Some sort of reputation along those lines might stick to her, and it might get around at her new firm. When you’re a woman at a law firm – or a woman, period – there are times when it seems you just can’t win.
Another client – a young partner at a biglaw firm – told me she’d been harassed, but stated flatly, “you can’t report it – they’ll just push you out.” I asked her what she did instead. “Oh, you’re supposed to be able to handle it. Tell him to fuck off, or whatever.”
That was upsetting to hear. She delivered it with gusto – and I wanted to believe she really meant it, had the fortitude to say “fuck off” to the guy slipping his hand up her thigh, then briskly smooth her skirt, and move on. But is it really that easy?
Therapists love empathy exercises – it’s kind of our business, in a nutshell. So let’s go ahead and imagine the reality of sexual harassment – having someone you have no interest in sexually or otherwise, someone you work with or work for, pawing over your body at a firm function. My guess is it would unsettle me more than I’d like to admit. And how about going into the office the next day and trying to work with the guy – especially if he’s senior? Could you just “handle it”? Or would the whole unpleasant business get under your skin, leave you seething, angry and humiliated and wanting someone to listen to what happened to you and do something about it? And what would you do with the thought that he’s probably doing this to other people, and getting away with that, too?
Reporting harassment doesn’t sound like much fun either: Walking through the distasteful details of the incident with his bosses, who are also your bosses, then inevitably getting labelled “high-strung,” “unstable,” or “a trouble-maker.” Then getting “pushed out.”
Another client, who reported harassment at her firm, is living through the experience of being “pushed out” right now. Suddenly her last review wasn’t so good – despite the fact that the previous two were positively glowing. Suddenly, she finds herself the focus of whispering and gossip and the recipient of cold shoulders from colleagues. Suddenly, she’s working with a headhunter, in a tough legal job market. Anything to get out of there.
Okay – time for a quick reality check. So far, this column appears to be headed in the familiar direction of venting quite a bit of anger about the unfairness of being a woman in biglaw – which is, in fact, precisely where it is headed. But before I bounce merrily down that well-worn pike, I want to make it clear to you, Dear Reader, that I’m not a total naïf with regard to the vicissitudes of man- and womankind. I’ve grasped the reality that all women aren’t saintly, nor all men the embodiment of evil (as well as the tangentially related fact that, on occasion, gay people harass people too.) It’s true: Women do sometimes falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct, and the women who commit that hateful act are mostly a bit difficult and unstable, and – to put it bluntly, nuts.
In fact, I have worked with two cases in which male clients were traumatized by being falsely accused of sexual misconduct by mentally unstable women. Yes, that happens. My clients went home with disturbed women who subsequently made accusations that weren’t true. In both cases, the incidents took place in college, involved people in their early 20’s, and alcohol was a factor. And in both cases the accusers were women who most likely had abuse in their own backgrounds – based on their statements – as well histories of serious mental health disorders.
In both cases, the men were young and sexually inexperienced. Confronted with the charges, both men found themselves instinctively apologizing, which led to issues with their credibility down the line. Both men were left wary and defensive after this experience, especially around expressing desire or romantic interest towards women (and if you put yourself in their shoes, it isn’t hard to see why.)
So yes, of course there are two sides to every story. Some women are a bit crazy, and they falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct. You’d have to be a bit crazy – maybe very crazy – to do something that cruel and malicious. But, as I’ve said – it happens, often with traumatic consequences.
However, there are few points worth making about crazy women lodging false accusations, especially as concerns accusations of sexual harassment in the world of biglaw:
First – there are obviously many many more women victimized by sexual misconduct each year in the world, and in this country and yes, in biglaw, than there are men falsely accused of such misconduct. That’s because there are – one may logically conclude – vastly more horny, inappropriate guys out there than there are nutty, unstable women of the sort who would level false accusations (a quick, sobering glance at the statistics concerning sexual crimes worldwide should suffice to establish this point.)
Second – this phenomenon (harassing men vastly outnumbering crazy women) may be attributed to the fact that, while most people around the world agree that it takes a crazy woman to accuse a man falsely of sexual misconduct, it is not universally recognized as crazy worldwide to force oneself on a woman in an inappropriate sexual manner. In many parts of the world such behavior is taken for granted (which is of course, horrifying, but that’s the sad state of things.)
Third – the “harassing men vastly outnumbering crazy women” axiom fits particularly well in the world of biglaw, a universe populated by a significant number of highly educated, professionally successful adult women, and a perhaps an equally-significant number of sexually inappropriate, fratboy-ish men. Many biglaw firms are over-grown boys’ clubs – they only opened their doors to accept women a few decades ago, and it shows. As a result, as a woman, you have to be a pretty tough cookie – and rather non-crazy – i.e., at least moderately stable and level-headed – just to find yourself making it into and surviving within, the biglaw world. That also shows. The fact is, I’ve never run into a single case where I’ve doubted a woman client’s report of an incident of sexual harassment in biglaw – and I’ve heard a great many such stories.
Okay, you might protest, I’m a therapist – I’m supposed to believe my clients. And I also believed the men who reported being falsely accused. But there’s something about an educated professional woman complaining about sexual harassment at her workplace – a place she’s fought long and hard to be – that’s just plain compelling on the face of it. They don’t sound like liars or crazy people – they sound like professionals who have had it up to here with being harassed.
Nonetheless, as a woman lodging such a complaint, you open yourself up for labels like “difficult” and “unstable” and “a trouble maker,” with the clear insinuation that you’re a bit nuts – in other words, that you’re the sort of crazy woman who might make a false accusation of sexual misconduct.
The most notorious example of this type of attack on a woman came when David Brock, the conservative GOP attack-writer (now an openly gay liberal Democratic attack-writer) smeared Anita Hill for claiming she’d been sexually harassed by Clarence Thomas. Brock labelled Hill “a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty.” He’s since apologized for that bit of unprincipled calumny, and admitted it was baseless and wrong, but by then it was too late – he’d fed into the terrible stereotype that each and every woman who reports harassment is somehow crazy – and a liar.
In the case of Hill, the nutty/slutty formula seemed entirely misplaced. She was a thirty-five year old honors grad from Yale Law School, and a lawyer at the EEOC, who worked for Thomas. She didn’t come across as nuts in the least.
Instead of nutty or slutty, Hill mostly appeared courageous. It must have been embarrassing, to say the least, to be in her position. Uncomfortable. Awkward. But clearly necessary, to prevent the nightmare of watching a man who harassed her – and purportedly other women at their workplace – win a seat on the Supreme Court.
Thomas and his right-wing character assassins did their best to perpetuate the old cliché – hence Thomas’ friend Brock’s “nutty and slutty” slur. But it didn’t really stick, not even back in 1991 (at least not with strident feminists like me.) Even if Hill had an axe to grind with Thomas, it was a stretch to accept that she was nuts enough to take things that far. This wasn’t a mentally unbalanced woman at a college party with Jaegermeister shots and kegs of Coors Light. This was an attorney at a federal agency, putting her career on the line.
It seemed then – and continues to seem now – far more likely Hill was telling the truth.
Another empathy exercise: Contemplate what that truth would look like. Imagine you work for Clarence Thomas – and he’s coming onto you like a freight train. You might be able to grit your teeth and bear it while you’re working for him. But when he’s up for a Supreme Court seat? You’d have to open your mouth, right? And that would be a damned courageous decision.
Now imagine Clarence Thomas is innocent – has never harassed you. How likely is it that you would invent the entire thing? Does that seem like anything a serious, highly educated, ambitious – and so far as anyone can tell, entirely non-crazy – lawyer would do?
If the harassment did actually happen, Hill was opening herself up for more abuse. And if it didn’t happen and she was making the whole thing up, she was still opening herself up for abuse, and reaping no obvious benefit in the process. She’d have to be crazy. But Anita Hill, despite the right-wing’s determined efforts to slander her reputation, didn’t seem crazy. She still doesn’t seem crazy. Not nutty. Not slutty. Not either. Not in the least.
My client, who reported harassment at her firm, also doesn’t seem nutty or slutty, but she’s facing the same tired stereotypes, and she’s fleeing the firm where the harassment took place. She sees no other option, since the firm treated her situation like an awkward nuisance. They acted put out by her complaint, dutifully went through the motions of pretending to care, then swept the whole thing under the rug. The offender – who behaved horrendously – got away with a slap on the wrist. That’s pretty standard. The takeaway seems to be that my client’s a little unstable…a troublemaker…a bit nuts….in other words, crazy.
Just to review: As a woman in biglaw, you might get sexually harassed. And if you complain about it, someone will likely attempt to dismantle your case by attempting to depict you as crazy. That’s the state of things.
But wait – there’s more. Aside from the harassment issue, let’s talk about how other persistent, unfair stereotypes make it difficult to be a woman at a biglaw firm.
For example, many of my female clients complain they get stuck with the “housework” at the firm – the work that isn’t glamorous, but requires “people skills.” If there’s a job that involves organizing lots of complicated low-level stuff, supervising lots of juniors – you can bet the woman gets that, since women are so sensitive and willing to listen.
Then there’s the general complaint, which I hear all the time, that women get passed over for partner, or chased away from the firm before it becomes an issue. The men at the most frat-like firms essentially chase the women away with their boorish behavior, only back-tracking now and then to make sure they keep at least a few female associates past fifth year, maybe elevate one or two to of counsel or non-equity partner, or even appoint one a token equity partner – someone who won’t make trouble, for appearance’s sake.
On the surface, if a woman does make partner – real partner – the sacrifices are the same as a man’s – i.e., you never see your family. But then that double standard goes into play: a man is allowed to never see his wife or kids, but with a woman…it looks weird – it feels weird – if she has kids and then never sees them.
So one final thought experiment, to drive home the pervasiveness of female stereotypes in biglaw. Let’s pretend a woman made partner and simply behaved exactly like a man in the same position. Here goes:
Mary decides she’s obsessed with making partner. She logs insane hours – 3,000 or more per year. Her work is good, and she’s like a machine – just keeps cranking it out. That gets the firm’s attention.
Mary has a husband at home – someone she met in college – but when she goes out to bars with clients and people from the firm, she gets drunk, grabs the asses of cute young guys, and brags about her sexual conquests. “I’d bang him,” is her catch-phrase, always greeted with laughter – although she usually means it. Mary’s a “team player,” popular with the other associates (at least the female ones, in our topsy-turvy imaginary world) and some powerful partners.
When one of the young men who’s caught her attention – a first year associate – complains to his partner mentor that Mary ran her hand over his crotch one night when they were alone in her office and said she’d really like to fuck him, the firm’s senior management rushes in to protect her. Mary’s a rising star at the firm, she earns them good money and the clients like her. They’ve got her back. The junior furthermore says Mary had liquor on her breath at the time – she was tipsy after entertaining clients, which isn’t unusual. In any case the junior’s an annoying, uptight trouble-maker. He isn’t a super-star in terms of billable hours – and Mary is. The first year is not-so-subtly pushed out of the firm. Not a team-player.
Years pass. Mary has two children. After the first kid arrives, her husband quits his job to be a stay-home dad. She hardly notices. He never earned much, and she just made partner.
By the time kid number two hits first grade, Mary’s notorious for seducing young male associates. There’s a fling with another married partner, too – or maybe it was a hook-up – and she rather notoriously got jiggy with a handsome contract attorney. Fed up, her husband files for divorce. After a nasty law suit, he gets custody and a fat settlement. In response, Mary cranks the partying up a notch, then impulsively marries a guy twenty-five years her junior – she’s in her fifties, he’s in his twenties. He’s an intern at some entertainment magazine, but seems happy to live as a kept boy. Mary has another kid with him (remember, this is a thought experiment.) By the time he gives birth, she’s already sleeping with another associate at the office, a third-year she’s taken under her wing ’cause she likes his attitude.
The second husband puts up with Mary’s antics – passive-aggressively exacting revenge by spending thousands on spa visits and Prada suits. Mary snaps out of it and splits with him, soothing any upset by buying herself a deluxe SoHo bachelorette pad and a vintage Porsche Carrera. At this point, she’s hooking up with a string of young guys, and barely knows her kids from the first marriage. She’s hardly even met the offspring from the second one. Rumor has it there’s a coke habit.
Okay – end of thought experiment. You get the picture? Mary’s acting like an out of control male biglaw partner.
What’s deeply dysfunctional about a biglaw partnership – the sacrifice of a meaningful personal relationship or family for money and career – is precisely what makes it next to impossible for a woman to succeed at playing that game.
What’s totally dysfunctional about society in general – the fact that male biglaw partners are somehow not expected to maintain meaningful personal relationships or healthy families – is what makes it possible for a man to succeed in biglaw.
That’s the double-standard – and so long as that’s the way biglaw is played, it might as well remain a men’s club. A woman would have to be crazy to join.
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Sexual harassment of women in Big Law is a pervasive problem. As Will points, women who complain risk carrying the label of troublemaker. Successful women, i.e., assertive women, are doubly damned if they complain because their reputation for toughness is used against them. An assertive woman is expected to be so tough she could just shut the harasser down, cut him off at the knees. But it’s not that simple, and the difficulty increases as the harasser’s power inside the firm increases.
When a woman does complain, she typically suffers the indignity of her peers failing to support her. While this seems illogical, there’s psychological sense behind it. All of us want to believe we’re “safe” and live in a fair world where people follow the rules. To accept that a male predator has freely harassed another woman would require conceding that the world of their law firm is not safe. This rationalization and the offending partner’s power hold other women back from supporting the victim. This, too, undermines the credence of the victim’s claims.
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Thanks, Kate – and btw, The People’s Therapist highly recommends Terminal Ambition for every lawyer – it’s a great read on an important subject!
We just had sexual harrassment training at my New York biglaw law firm. Mostly we rolled our eyes and suffered through the cheesy scenarios. But the consultant running it was not particularly good, and she gave some advice that sounded wrong and raised the attention of a bunch of overly-analytical, relatively smart lawyers. So it turned into a discussion that was more interesting than expected.
My point is, your post focuses on talking about situations that definitely were harrassment and, on the other hand, situations that were not harrassment but falsely reported by *crazy* women. What is more troubling to me– and was the focus of our training– are the situations where neither person is clearly in the wrong, but different reasonable people have different internal calibrations of inappropriateness.
Take, for example a comment made by a man to a woman: “you look nice today” or “I like your dress.” As a relatively young person who has had appropriate workplace sensitivity beaten into me for years, though I think these things relatively frequently, I would never utter these words at work. Ever. To anyone. But I also can’t really say that these comments are necessarily harrassment. It all depends on the context, frequency, who’s saying it to whom, etc. The problem is that I could foresee a totally reasonable, non-boorish male thinking these comments are fine. And I can also see a totally reasonable, not crazy female attorney who would feel uncomfortable receiving these comments.
If any person receiving the comments felt uncomfortable, it should definitely be addressed, but at the same time, I don’t know that the person making them should be *punished.* Even in the worst scenario where the commenter is a 60 or 70-year-old male partner and the recipient is a summer associate, I can see an HR department reasonably chalking this up to him being from a different decade. What are you going to do, fire him?
My totally uniformed speculation is that a lot of the unfair labeling of a whistleblower being “not a team player” or “too uptight” AND a lot of the perception that HR doesn’t really do anything to the perpetrator is a result of borderline situations, where peoples’ assessments of what harrassment is don’t line up like what I described, and not neessarily the result of the whistleblower actually being nutty or HR actually giving a pass to clearly inappropriate harrassment.
Will? thoughts?
The harassment I hear about from my female clients is unmistakeable. If someone tells you that you look nice or they like your dress – even if they’re kind of creepy and flirty – that’s just creepiness or flirty-ness…that’s not harassment. Confusing that sort of thing with the real deal only fogs the issue, which doesn’t help anyone. This isn’t about political correctness or jumping down people’s backs for the slightest impropriety – this is about sexual harassment – crossing real lines with behavior that anyone could see was inappropriate.
In my experience, even “borderline” situations are not at all borderline. They are clearly harassment. Take, for example, the senior attorney who offered to take me out for a “mentoring lunch” that turned out to be a romantic picnic by a lake. Yes, it was a nice lunch and he was trying to do something nice for me. But it was not appropriate and it was harassment. Excusing men who have “good intentions” as borderline cases is like excusing street harassment as “but he was just giving you a compliment!”
If you wouldn’t tell a male attorney that you like the cut of his suit or that he looks handsome today, don’t say it to a female attorney. If you wouldn’t open the car door for a male attorney, don’t open it for a female attorney. If you wouldn’t tell a male attorney about your past sexual experiences, don’t tell them to a female attorney!
On the other hand, that’s what men are like. They are looking for sexual partners, or perhaps even for a longer term partner. I guess the answer to this one is, if one is seeking a mentor, don’t get one who likes to mentor beside the lake while having a picnic. Get one who mentors in the office or in the workplace cafeteria.
I would think each situation has to be looked at individually, for solutions. Hers is another story, this time of alleged sexual exploitation: Anne Kneale and Bill Mates: age, gender, and sexual exploitation, Apr 14, 2013:
http://suemcpherson.blogspot.ca/2013/04/anne-kneale-and-bill-mates-age-gender.html
The girl in that case, Anne Kneale, probably could have done with something like this piece about sexual harassment, in order to know how to defend herself better.
You don’t say whether you thought the picnic was intentionally meant to become romantic/sexual, or whether it just happened during the course of enjoying the day. If he intentionally took you there for the purpose of sex, then it was sh, but if he didn’t, and he just grew to like you more than he should, it was just one of those situations that required doing something about.
As a parting thought–most women will endure countless instances of creepinesss or flirtiness before even thinking about reporting it. I have seen so many of instances of women who confront the flirty creep and ask him to stop or who recruit sympathetic male colleagues to confront the flirty creep on her behalf before ever even considering reporting it to HR. Flirty creeps, according to my anecdata, are often given second, third, and even fourth chances to cut it out.
The sad part is that, the flirty creeps typically just move on to the next victim when their victim quits the firm.
And isn’t that one definition of sh – that it is repeated unwanted sexual attention. Sometimes, a woman only sees it as sh weeks or even years later, when they think about the incidents.
I agree. I work with a lot of women, and they deal with creepy flirty-ness on a daily basis. That’s pretty much par for the course. Harassment is when it crosses lines – like you’re being touched in ways that anyone would recognize as inappropriate, or the inappropriate remarks just keep escalating – even when you make it clear you aren’t interested – until you feel not just creeped out, but unsafe in your work environment.
Daily creepy flirty-ness isn’t appropriate in a professional environment. Yes, many women do deal with it and accept that it happens. It crosses the line from “par for the course” to sexual harassment when it happens every day, from the same guy, and after he’s been asked to stop–even if the behavior never escalates beyond “hello beautiful.”
Honestly, being “creeped out” does mean that I feel unsafe in my work environment–I just don’t feel like I would be supported if I tried to do anything about it. For example, I have asked security to walk me to my car after a repeat harasser emailed asking if I was still at work. Even though I felt unsafe, the email was worded innocently enough that it would have been dismissed by HR.
I am not the only woman who has been stuck in that position. Harassers are incredibly sophisticated and know how to intimidate their victims without leaving an evidence trail. I know far more women who have been harassed in this way than I know men who have been “falsely accused”. Honestly, I think men perceive their behavior as innocent not realizing how intimidating it really is. So they aren’t able to accept that their “innocent flirty-ness” is actually a very insidious form of sexual harassment.
Re your last 2 sentences:
For sure, men might see their behaviour as innocent, not realizing it may appear threatening to some women. I have gone through that, and not had my experience understood. In fact, when I spoke out I was punished – by women who most likely would have thought the incident was simply funny (if they had been able to comprehend it). It was done to me in a class at university, by a professor, who had probably done it before, with good effect.
The reason I spoke out was because the prof suddenly stopped speaking to me. He had realized his error. And I was angry that he had tossed me aside. And I wrote about it, in a lengthy essay. I was naive, and hadn’t realized that was how many women got ahead in life, by forming such relationships – probably sexual. He was a decent man, and I was a decent woman with previous incidents involving male domination, recently having taken an assertiveness training course.
Furthermore, this incident followed me in my attempts to do the MA in Sociology (done finally) and a PhD (incomplete.) I have written about this in the story of my life *currently under revision) on my website, at
http://samcpherson.homestead.com/StoryofMyLife.html .
I continue to write about sex, sexuality, etc, as well as social inequality (and social injustice), and not just from the perspective of women. I think other people turned my situation into one of either/or, right or wrong, him or me, not one in which there was legitimately a grey area. It was easier for ignorant females to hound me and ruin my reputation than attempt to deal with the sexualized environment within the universities.
Always keep a mug of coffee ready (doesn’t need to be hot), preferably with cream and sugar. Then when the creep puts his had up your thigh dump the coffee all over his chest and lap and say, “Oh please forgive me. I have this uncontrollable impusle to pour coffee on people who grope me.” The cream and sugar and coffee stain will make a mess that everyone else will see until he changes clothes. With any luck he’ll be scheduled to meet with a very big client a few minutes after the groping attempt. Word will quickly get around the office and not only you but others will be protected against future groping. You will be a hero in the eyes of your office mates, at least the ones who don’t want to be groped.
Sometimes these “sexual harassers” have underlying mental illness that causes significant problems.
So, yes, it’s harassment, but the “male predator” has significant underlying issues, such as bipolar disorder, etc.
That’s something to keep in mind, since these conditions really are hidden disorders.
Yes, it’s sexual harassment, but there is an additional layer of trouble in those cases. And it’s something that law firms are quite unsuited to deal with because it makes the problem even “ickier”
So according to your logic, Mr. Therapist, all of Bill Clinton’s accusers were telling the truth as well? Why did you not mention the Clinton administration’s “character assassinations” that were attempted on them? Funny how you assume women are telling the truth when they are attacking a conservative but turn a blind eye to women accusing liberals.
I don’t think Bill Clinton’s accusers were relating stories of harassment. The reliable stories about Clinton all seemed to concern embarrassing, but consensual sexual encounters. Sure, Clinton cheated on his wife. But was that harassment? Monica Lewinsky never said she was harassed – she just hooked up with a married man. She was young, and she was an intern, so it was clearly inappropriate – but it was consensual.
Hmm it seems like your website ate my first comment (it was extremely long)
so I guess I’ll just sum it up what I wrote and say, I’m thoroughly enjoying your blog.
I too am an aspiring blog blogger but I’m still new to everything. Do you have any recommendations for newbie blog writers? I’d certainly appreciate it.
Sorry – I’ve been flooded with spam comments lately – long things praising me to the skies in indefinite terms, then linking to other blogs.
My recommendation is to create good content. Write stuff people want to read. That’s the secret to a good blog – that it be enjoyable to read, informative…blah blah blah. Content is king. Content is all. Content is the hard part.
I’m more inclined to think we should go back in time and nip feminism in the bud. Sexual harassment, IMO, is a matter of bullying, not sexism. That will probably piss a number of “feminists” off, but I’m ok with that.